How The Porn Industry Banks (Part 2)
This is the second of a three-part series, involving the truth behind the adult industry’s camming world.
In part one, I lightly touched on the mistreatment of camgirls by pimps in the industry. Now I’ll show how our customers are taken advantage of, by those same pimps.
When a charge appears on John Doe’s credit card from a porn site for a purchase he did not make or one he was overbilled for, he has the choice to dispute it or suck up the loss. His ultimate decision is often based on principal, as the dollar amount is usually rather low. After all, a small erroneous charge pales in comprison to the public humiliation of having your good name attached to a legal battle with a porn site smack in the middle of it. This is where the opportunistic pigs of the porn industry capitalize. Playing on people’s vulnerabilities with such little risk allows them to continue to thrive.
Below is an example of just one of several e-mail conversations I had with one particular site I worked for, concerning the overbilling of customers. Note: the $71.82 I mention below is my half.
Notice how they never addressed the overbilling issue in their response?
The word “free” is used all over the site and in ads promoting it. To his utter delight, the customer is (rightfully) under the impression the credit card request is strictly for age verification purposes and therefore he needs not worry about charges. Once that card number is given, charges can (and often do) occur though.
The website terms vaguely make mention of ‘premium areas’ and are loose overall with the wording. Anyone who actually takes the time to read them will discover paragraph after paragraph of legal protection. Despite this, a charge may occur, out of the blue, for a service the member never knew he was being charged for. The customer may even continue to be billed monthly, even yearly for a membership fee to the site if no action is taken to stop this.
In many cases, it isn’t until the customer officially files a complaint in public forums (such as Ripoffreport.com and Complaintsboard.com) that the site responds with anything other than denial. Sometimes, an anonymous person (with a strong, aggressive desire to defend the site) will try to project the blame onto the customer, whose “dick in hand”, as they say, prevented him from thinking clearly or reading the fine print stating he was being charged. The customer had time though, despite “dick in hand”, to find his credit card and enter all the pertinent information it took to sign up. By then, I suppose it is safe to assume anything “in hand” would have shrunk a great deal. So, when he finally gets around to entering the girl’s room, after the credit-card signup process, that excuse of “dick in hand” can really no longer apply. Unless he is on Viagra and has one of those 4-hour long erections. Perhaps he doesn’t want to play ‘read the 5,000 character small print from boring beginning to boring end’. After all, most people assume it’s just legal stuff and skip to the ‘enter’ button, only to be met with a surprise charge on his credit card. He was told everywhere it was free (in BIG BOLD print too)! If he’s pissed off enough, needs to let off steam or believes it might actually help, his next course of action would be to file a complaint online.
Many did:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Ifriends/internet/Ifriends-criminal-fraud-Internet-1226626
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ifriends/internet/ifriends-debit-card-info-stolen-Internet-851847
Below is a link to a typical complaint, along with the site’s response. Despite claims that the customer “chose” to access the pay-per-view area, iFriends offered a full refund of his money. Is that what “100% commitment to customer satisfaction” means? They will refund your money even if you’re clearly wrong and they’re right? They would have filed for Chapter 11 or gone bankrupt long ago if they actually had to settle with every customer they ripped off and not just the ones who caught them and went public with it.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/WPIIFRIEND2-NY-MULTI-800-437-4363-FL/internet/WPIIFRIEND2-NY-MULTI-800-437-4363-FL-WPIIFRIENDS-INTERNET-800-243-9726-FL-They-are-the-b-636479
There are a lot of he-said/she-said instances here, so even taking it with a grain of salt, it’s pretty safe to assume a fraction of those 498 complaints against them are legitimate. I can attest to the fact that it was hard, as articulate as I am, to locate the per-min rate. It was hardly distinguishable from that legal text on the Enter page. The word FREE was splattered everywhere yet the per min rate was in small print, nestled in what appeared to be legal mumbo jumbo in the middle of a long paragraph. Conveniently, the type of wording people often skip past. The charge per/min is extremely easy to miss unless you actually enjoy reading legal terms on a sex site when a girl is waiting for you in a much-promoted ‘free’ room just a mouse-click away.
What guy in his right mind wouldn’t (with free sex on the brain, because that is what was promised) want to rush past all the legal crap right into that room where a naked girl awaits him? So perhaps in a sense, he does have “dick in hand”, but that doesn’t negate the fact that the per/min fees were furtively placed.
The kicker was that even though the trickery was completely the site’s doing, the girl earning 50% had to absorb all chargebacks and refunds. The site’s deceptive play on words and game of ‘find the per min rate’, despite our many complaints about this in their own forums to them, never gained us any ground and they never changed a thing in that wording. Zero integrity.
The word ‘volunteer’ comes to mind when thinking back at all the refunds and chargebacks I have had to incur working on that site. The girls are the ones who lose their time. The site loses nothing. Our earnings don’t include an hourly wage, just 50% commission. The work was physically draining at times and difficult in some cases where customers pushed us to our physical limits. We performed all sorts of nasty things only to find a lot of those sessions didn’t clear, charged back or disappeared from our stats altogether. The site still profited. They had a program in place the whole time that recorded every single session ever created on their platform, many which were edited and put up for sale outside the platform. The sites selling those were owned by the owner of iFriends himself along with his two partners, iFriends’ accountant and their lawyer in a company called RMTinfo, responsiblemediatechnologies.com (bought under Responsible Media Technologies, LLC). All three are partners in a business that sells sex videos of us all over the internet. And in case you’re wondering, no, the performer never sees a cent from those sales. She is told this is the work of affiliates. Let’s look a little closer at RMT.
About RMT (Responsible Media Technologies, LLC):
RMT here on Trademarkia’s site lists three owners – iFriends’ owner (Hadhazy), accountant (Albers) and lawyer (Kayton) together in a partnership. If you’re unfamiliar with these names, then note the address, 7765 Lake Worth Rd #341. That’s iFriends.
http://www.nevadacorporates.com/corp/204138.html
What that partnership represents is anyone’s guess but this should provide a clue …
http://whois.domaintools.com/responsiblemediatechnologies.com
Hint: if you view screenshot history, as seen on this page (http://research.domaintools.com/research/screenshot-history/responsiblemediatechnologies.com/#), you will see Responsiblemediatechnologies.com on top as the screenshot they chose as representing the site TotallyFreeCams (yet shown as being owned by Webpower, Inc, iFriends here in the official ownership records http://whois.domaintools.com/totallyfreecams.com).
This is the screenshot on the far right of the same page (http://research.domaintools.com/research/screenshot-history/responsiblemediatechnologies.com/#0), shows the dot com and llc are one in the same, not two separate entities. For anyone who might be confused (and rightfully so).
This is how they bank.
Let’s scoot back over to RipoffReport’s website to compare the number of complaints against them versus one of their biggest and oldest competitors.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/search/ifriends
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/search/myfreecams
Those are a lot of complaints, even considering one of those sites was in business 5 years longer than the other. Let’s compare them to one of the internet giants then. Take Microsoft, for example, who have been around a lot longer and are far more hated than iFriends. Even Microsoft, as big as they are, only double iFriends in number of pissed off customers. Again, these complaints can’t all be wrong.
It wouldn’t be fair to omit the overbilling of the customers though. It is, after all, a huge part of the site’s success. Years worth of the same so-called glitches that were never fixed, leads one to wonder if they were purposely put there. Any sane person would say “Why would they do that? Surely they would lose money.” But would they?
There are few reasons a site would deliberately create glitches. Here’s some insight into how the billing works, in conjunction with the videochat timer and then a very interesting observation;
When a member enters the room, he is immediately charged the rate of one minute, regardless of whether he stays the full minute or not. So he’s watching a hot girl on cam when all of a sudden, her video freezes. He either clicks the back browser intending to re-enter the room, thinking it was his connection, or he just refreshes the page. The charge stops at that point and a new charge is created once he re-enters the room. He likely doesn’t realize that a simple refresh creates a brand new charge (extra minute tacked on) even though he did not technically leave the room. It’s the stop and start of video buffering that causes the system to reboot the timer, but an ongoing ‘glitch’ is what created the need to re-try the page in the first place. Convenient. In fact, each time he clicks to refresh the page (and he will if the video freezes a lot), a new charge with that extra minute applies. Why fix glitches? Just tell the customers it’s their internet connection or the girl’s. Too often, no one is the wiser. The time of entry can go back as far as 2 minutes, in fact. Never quite understood that myself but then we’re not given the seconds to look at. Conveniently. Look at this poor guy’s charges. I’m sure this was the result of his internet connection, or perhaps my own. Yeah, that’s it. Spiteful little bastards, aren’t they? Those internet service providers! Oh but I shouldn’t jump to that assumption when it could just as easily have been the pig jumping over the moon interfering with his connection to the site. Maybe it’s Maybelline. What do you think? I have tons more screenshots. This is just a sample.
So, a few bucks here and there, right? No big deal. It could, in fact, even be legal. I’m not a lawyer. What do I know? Add up all those charges though and at the end of a very eventful day, glitches are certainly not their worst enemy, are they? Remember, these glitches get reported all the time, yet they don’t get fixed. Convenient. Adds up to big numbers. Do the math. This is a site that boasts members in the millions, by the way. Now do the math.
When a customer kicks up a stink over a charge (or several) they never agreed to, typically the site will negotiate a refund and widdle it down to an amount that satisfies the customer, should he be brave enough to threaten court action. The site eventually agrees to a full refund of everything the customer spent, if they feel the threat is real. Any sort of judicial intervention would likely result in a criminal investigation and that’s a can of worms this particular site must work hard to avoid at all costs.
For every one John Doe that complains publicly, there are thousands who don’t. Once again, the site banks … and the money is insane.
In some instances of overbilling, even the girls were blamed. To clear the air on this, the girls do not bill the customer. The one to go after is that name beside the credit card charge. So when a camgirl is blamed for a wrongful charge or overbilling of any sort, know it is not her doing and feel free to dispute the charge with your bank, then take action to replace that card with an entirely new one (see below advice). Unless you trust a company who you know to be liars, with your credit card information.
Defensive behavior is typical of someone taking advantage of you. It presents itself in their reactions and mannerisms over time. I learned this the hard way. Keep an eye out for those who appear exceptionally talented at shifting the blame onto others, usually in a condescending manner. When alerting them to existing problems seems pointless, you can be certain they are well aware. Initially, they will play dumb and when they realize that isn’t working, they shift to denial mode, pointing the finger at the performers, the customers, the weather, internet connections, the alignment of the moon and stars before checking into it or accepting any responsibility for it possibly being their end. Sounds familiar?
Some things to keep in mind:
If you must visit a camming site, or have a favorite girl that you like to support and enjoy time with, only use a debit credit card. This allows you to control the amount that can be billed to you and if left empty afterward, helps to avoid recurring charges that may suddenly appear at a later date. Watch for overbillings. Be diligent when it comes to charges on your card.
If you’re ever screwed over by a porn site:
1) If you used a credit card to sign up, and were overcharged on that card (more than once), cancel it immediately. Have your bank issue you a new one with an entirely different number sequence. Same goes for debit credit card users. Remember, you only have 90 days to dispute a charge with your credit card company.
2) Without divulging any personal information, report it in detail, using an alias on either (or both) of these sites –
3) File a complaint with the FBI’s IC3 division. https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx The more reports they receive against a particular company, the more they will be forced to take action.
4) File a complaint with the BBB. They can’t afford to have too many complaints here. They’ll settle quickly, like they did with this guy … http://www.bbb.org/southern-nevada/business-reviews/internet-services/ifriends-in-las-vegas-nv-82523/complaints#breakdown
In part 3, I will be discussing how they bank on the affiliates. You might want to grab some hot buttered popcorn for that one. Stay tuned.
Comments or questions? Please feel free to contact me publicly or privately on Twitter (@amanda36c) or by e-mail (amanda36c@gmail.com).
Artlessly Creative 1:35 pm on October 11, 2015 Permalink |
Are you seriously complaining about ifriends? You’re lucky they allowed you to come back. I would think being banned from as many sites as you have, you would reevaluate your position in life.
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amanda36c 7:27 pm on October 11, 2015 Permalink |
No, I’m not complaining, I’m exposing your frauds. I’m “lucky” they allowed me to come back? So you can steal from me? Use me to report the many “doozies” of glitches so that you could better hide the thefts? You mentioned “many” sites? I’d say both the sites you’re referring to are one and the same, closely in bed together. Let’s just call a spade a spade. “Reevaluate” my position in life? This isn’t about me. Why turn this on me? This is a classic example of the ‘blame game’ I was referring to so much in the above article. Thanks you for making my point. Perhaps you should reevaluate the way you treat others. You know what you have to do. Look at your comment. Who’s the one that needs help? Come on … https://amanda36c.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/who-wants-a-website/#comment-14427
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Artlessly Creative 10:28 pm on October 12, 2015 Permalink
Who is the “you”, you are referencing? Certainly you don’t think I’m affiliated with ifriends do you?
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amanda36c 9:18 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink
Your ip shows you out of Florida, you are quite defensive of them and the anger I am sensing in your replies tell me you are taking my article very personally. Where from do I draw that obvious conclusion? You are a barrel of laughs. Thanks for entertaining my readers.
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Sexy Princesses 8:40 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink |
Wow, what a shitty little comment to leave on Amanda’s blog when she’s simply trying to shed light on unethical behavior in the adult industry. Like, who the fuck are you? I’m glad that Amanda is smart, strong and not easily discouraged by such abusive behavior. I personally feel extremely lucky that a camgirl exists who isn’t just passive and acknowledges/EXPOSES that these scumbags exist.
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amanda36c 9:41 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink
Thank you, for not being afraid to post your thoughts. There is no way I would give anyone up to the scum in this industry anyway but people often feel the need to hide for fear of losing traffic or being blacklisted in this industry (and rightfully so). These people certainly do feel very adamant about defending iFriends. Hmmm.
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lol 7:51 pm on January 23, 2016 Permalink
Too bad you are amanda. still the same since the studio days.
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amanda36c 11:33 am on January 24, 2016 Permalink
Wow, you think I made up the name Sexy Princesses, just so that I could post on my own blog? Newsflash – that’s your game, not mine. You’re the one commenting on my articles, not the other way around. This is my blog and I post as Amanda36c here. I stand behind everything I write and everything even remotely questionable is backed up with screenshots and links. You’re the one coming in here with these useless, insignificant insults and accusations, nothing more.
It’s also interesting how you toss around accusations of me pretending to be someone else when you use a proxy service to hide your ip. You sure do go through a lot of trouble (proxy to change your ip, fake email address to post this, fake name and useless comment) just to post to my blog.
If this is another of your ridiculous and baseless attempts to discredit me, you really should consider a career change. Pretending to know me from my ‘studio days’? You’ve got to do better than that. I’ve mentioned many times, in the iFriends forums as well as all over the internet, where I got my start, so the fact that I worked in a studio isn’t exactly classified information.
Listen up idiot … who you are is obvious. Get over the paranoia. It will only make you look as guilty as you are. For the record, Sexy Princesses is not me. You can choose to believe me … or don’t. I really couldn’t care less what you think. I have a life to go live now, so I suggest you do the same.
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Elliot Ness 12:04 pm on February 7, 2016 Permalink |
Artlessly Creative,
Strange how you used the word “come back” in your statement, ” You’re lucky they allowed you to come back.” instead of the word go back. The use of the word come back implies that you are with Ifriends where as you should have used “go back” in order to show the opposite. This is how a person who is not connected to Webpower Inc./Ifriends would have said it. In your haste to rush into Amanda’s blog to discredit and insult her, you made a critical error in your word choice and clearly pointed out that you are with Webpower Inc./Ifriends. According to Amanda’s information, your IP actually shows out of Florida, only cements the obvious connection. Why doesn’t Allan E Hadhazy just pay the people he steals from instead of playing the childish PR games?
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Matty 9:32 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink |
These pieces of shit ripped me off with their “Free” bullshit. The paid areas on their site are not marked boldly and despite looking very carefully, I couldn’t find the per minute rates for the girls. My CC was getting charged long after I stopped going to their site. I even cancelled my membership in a big star’s fanclub but ifriends charged me for three extra months after the date. I confronted their customer service people about my charges only to be offered a credit to use on their site. They took my money without my permission and then tried to get me to spend the money on their site that I never wanted to in the first place. I told them I was going to the police about their extortion and they agreed to refund me all my money. ifriends had my money for over 6 months before I received it back. I cancelled my CC immediately after receiving the money back. I now refuse to give my CC to any porn site anymore. Why aren’t the police investigating them? How is ifriends even still around? People should just stay away from these sites, they are criminals.
Thanks for sharing!
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Elliot Ness 10:17 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink |
Looks like you really struck a nerve Amanda. Ifriends had to send in their attack dog and try to spin doctor your blog article away from the topic of their scam. They seem to be pretty angry for a supposed innocent bystander. Their sole purpose is to focus the attention at the writer and get the readers to question your credibility and sanity. Zero proof to as why you are wrong or anything to debunk what you have shown about ifriends/webpower Inc.. The fraud must be weighing on them all very heavily and you, a past insider, is exposing their crimes. Can’t be very good for their scam/business. It could make the right people finally take the next step in auditing their companies.
As for RMT, it is how the partners get their monies out of the scam. Isn’t it funny how RMT LLC is opened out of Las Vegas, NV but the websites’ domains all have an address in New Zealand. Don’t worry, Andy Kayton will make sure to change the info so as not to look like what you are saying is correct but he can’t change the Whois history records with ICANN.
There is another well hidden company offshore that is supposedly owned and operated by someone else but it is Webpower Inc. that is really in control. This is where the IRS should start their criminal investigation.
Amanda, why don’t you show people some of the screenshots that you showed me? They will leave no doubt that Ifriends are scamming customers, performers and affiliates.
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amanda36c 10:47 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink |
I did strike a nerve, didn’t I? At least I’m not the only one noticing this. No camgirl, affiliate or member has any reason to be so adamant about coming to the defense of a sex site that’s ripped everyone off under the sun. There is only one company interested in defending them. It’s apparent to everyone else, just not to them in the inner circle. As much as I’d like to show those screenshots, I’d rather not. I’ve shown them enough of what they need to hide. I’m not in the mood to do them any more favours. I do have a few that will knock their socks off though. Maybe even yours, Ness. That will go into my next blog, after I expose how they’ve screwed over the affiliates. I don’t want to leave anyone out here. Thanks for your insight. As always, very informative.
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JB 11:35 am on November 7, 2015 Permalink |
Here are JB’s comments on https://amanda36c.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/who-wants-a-website/#comment-14443
Hey Artlessly Creative,
Your statement “Get fucking help before you end up committing suicide.” , makes your comment an insult so don’t pretend otherwise. As for you, supposedly being qualified as an expert because a schizophrenic family member committed suicide, I have an uncle that has run a cattle farm for over 45 years so that makes me a qualified expert to know BULLSHIt when I see it! You are a moron!
Amanda is way too strong mentally and physically to let scumbags get the best of her. She has already proven you and the others wrong on so many occasions, it has become a real joke! Tell Allan E. Hadhazy et Al and Shawn Boday to stop sending such complete idiots to make ridiculous insults and comments on her blog posts. What’s wrong – they can’t get someone to ban Amanda from her own blog, like they did in the industry forums?
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