Why I Created CamGirlClubs
After 16 long years in camming, things had gone from fun to frustration. The sites went from bad to worse in terms of their treatment of the camgirls overall. A little history (relevant to the reason I decided enough is enough and decided to create my own site for camgirls):
Clue #1
I got my first taste of ‘something’s just not right’ back on iFriends a few years after I started, when they announced they would be holding back 10% of our revenues for a period of 6 months, to cover chargebacks and refunds. I accused them, in the chathosts’ private forums, of using our hard-earned money to invest for selfish gain (and I wasn’t wrong). They suspended my account immediately for those comments. This set an example for the rest, not to ever speak out against them, (even if it is the truth). What’s worse is, they never showed us a report of the ins and outs of that reserve account (the 10% held back) and took money from it as they pleased, with no one to answer to, ever! The revenue report they post for us disappears after 3 months. So, anything after that, we’re unable to see. So, good luck trying to account for where that 10% went!
Dummy Duh
One day, while I was learning how to code HTML. I noticed that the source code on our Fan Club pages had script that read “dummyduh=”true””. I have to admit, this had me mildly concerned that this is how they thought of us. It isn’t such a stretch, considering the tactics I’ve seen.
“Clear Your Cookies”
Their tech people continually blamed our internet connections, when we’d call in with reports of problems accessing the site or its features, or with navigation, stats reporting, etc. Despite the many complaints by customers on their own platform, as well as on outside forums of their laggy service and horrid page load time, they continue to blame the chathosts, the members, everything but themselves, without even looking into it first. According to them, there were never any complaints. I was always the “only one” having issues that day. The infamous line “did you clear your cookies?” if anything, lightened the mood with some humor. I still don’t know how they could say that with a straight face. Perhaps they just said it so much, it wore on them, like an old joke. I pointed out that they might want to read their very own forums, as there were complaints galore about the same issue I was complaining about. Again, somehow it’s our fault. The site runs perfectly. 5 members that were booted out of my room in that 10 minute span, just ‘coincidentally’ all happened to be on bad connections (since my connection was perfectly fine and I had proof enough to shoot down that theory).
Members Overbilled
Members were being overbilled, double-triple, sometimes even quadruple billed. These were reported to the site and still, nothing was done to fix it. Those overbillings never disappeared off my earnings, and this was during a time where refunds/chargebacks ran rampant and everyone was seeing a sudden surge in both. So, it makes no sense for them not to want to deduct the overbillings from us.
Jaime Answers My E-mails
jaime@Webpower was the name that appeared in my settings somehow, rather than ‘amanda36c’ (and I certainly didn’t make that change). So, every member wanting to e-mail me through the fan club system, was actually sending their message to her and not me. Strange testing jumble appeared in the list of handles I use online (again, a result of them tampering in my personal account settings). Many, many things just did not add up.
The Great ‘Glitch’ Switch
Major discrepancies were caught through the iFriendsv2 reports (when they switched over the platforms from iFriends.com to iFriendsv2). Some members in my fan club showed as being there for several months, years yet I was only paid for one month. This was reported. What did they do about it? Change the info in the reports and tell me it was a “glitch”. Bullshit!
Legal Eagles
I started to notice discrepancies in revenue reports where nothing was matching up. Reporting it, again, got me nowhere. I asked to see specific reports pertaining to my earnings, that they didn’t report to us on the site (like that 10% reserve account – balances). They sent me some that really didn’t add up with the reports I had from the site. I inquired further about this and they outright refused to answer me. Inquiring about it further, with management, got me nowhere, so I threatened legal recourse, which only made them lawyer up and refuse to communicate any further.
They STILL Own The Dot Net
Just recently, iFriends decided to renew amanda36c.net. They are STILL, after 3 & 1/2 years of me having left their platform, a nasty public revenue dispute on the Ripoffreport.com website, several e-mails back and forth during that time, earning money off my content (that I have never been paid for). The Whois record shows amanda36c.net was updated 2012-12-17 and expires in 2014. http://whois.domaintools.com/amanda36c.net
Harassment
I had to deal with a lot of harassment in my room, especially those last few years on iFriends. Back then, I thought it might have been a fellow chathost. I now know that was not the case. After all that, I’d finally had enough and started looking around at other sites. I was approached by one of the owners of Streamate and began to work there. It didn’t take long before the harassment followed me there and continued. All the same mannerisms, all the same insults, everything, exactly the same. This is not a fellow camgirl, not a random internet troll. This is someone who, in their own words, threatened me to “stay offline”. They also have an endless array of accounts on that site, where blocking them is completely useless. Reporting it does absolutely nothing, either.
The sites will have us believe that the economy has finally started to penetrate what once was a recession-proof industry. Has it really become as bad as it appears on the surface or are we just unable to see all that’s going on? That aside, websites selling our content, live feeds are still popping up all over the place, yet our revenues continue to decline. I see the sites creating more studios, subcontractors no longer signed up directly through them, rather through these representatives’ sites now. Girls working for as little as 18% now. How low can they go? Who is doing anything to stop them?
This, my friends, is why I have decided to create CamGirl Clubs. To summarize it best, I will quote a very wise man: “Be the change that you wish to see in the world”.
Camgirls, I’d love to have you join me. Let’s change this industry, for the better.
Check out the site http://camgirlclubs.com
Apply here. http://camgirlclubsinfo.wordpress.com/
ElliotNess29 3:45 pm on June 17, 2013 Permalink |
You have an excellent idea there, Amanda!
I hope your fellow performers are smart enough to see this is their only chance to make something of their own that the SCUMBAGS of your industry can’t take away or steal from them. If they have read any of your blog posts then they should be running to join you as I think you have shown them that the big websites aren’t to be trusted. The Webpower Inc./Ifriends, Streamate, et Als are just getting rich off screwing over the performers as well as affiliates and customers while all of the performers struggle to make any money. If you can get enough Performers into your Camgirlclubs then all of you might have a better chance at going after your stolen content and getting a better percent off your live performances. There’s always power in numbers over bullies. The big websites are just taking more and more from the performers. It appears only you and vey few others are willing or courageous enough to stand up to the big players and call out their B.S. You get harassed for it and they pretend to be other performers to get away with it. The big websites will stop at nothing (fraud, impersonation, brainwashing and threats) in order to keep their fortunes coming in. It’s all about their money, not the performers. Just look at the way they treat all of you. Zero respect, dictatorship and no support for their only real assets. They treat their customers and servers better than their online talent who make them all of their money. They blame all of the performers or worse the economy for the loss of revenues and traffic declines, never themselves.
History tells me that if your fellow performers don’t stand up for themselves along with you then it will only get worse for them, never better. It takes one to get it started but without others taking the difficult bold step forward, CHANGE can not happen. The performers need to get their heads out the sand and have more respect for themselves because the big websites certainly don’t..
Join Amanda’s venture to give you, the performers what you are really WORTH! She deserves your help and support. You can’t expect your industry to do anything for the performers, it’s you that has to do it for yourselves.
Good Luck Amanda!
P.S. Thanks to you and others for the help because the watchers are now being watched!
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Karessa 5:00 pm on March 18, 2014 Permalink |
This is a great idea, and I was thinking of joining as a girl. But it doesn’t seem like the website is up and running. I’m wondering when you were thinking of getting it all set up. Thanks! 🙂
~Karessa Kiss :-*
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amanda36c 10:31 pm on March 19, 2014 Permalink |
Hi Karessa,
Glad you like it and yes, I’m still working on the site. I’m also taking applications at the same time, so if you’re interested, be the early bird. http://camgirlclubsinfo.wordpress.com/cgc-skype/
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Anon 12:35 am on August 13, 2017 Permalink |
Hi Amanda. I read a review about iFriends on another site and found your blog information. When I had my during the time I had iFriends pay me directly to my bank account, someone signed up with paypal and connected my bank account to their PayPal accounts. I some how caught the fraud early enough to prevent them from actually trying to steal from me. I filed the police reports and i had to include ifriends.net because they were the only ones who had my bank acct # and routing #… Ever since I switched to payoneer and closed my bank accounts I have NO problems. Yes, I believe you were being harrassed by someone working at ifriends because they are harassing me too….I still host their but very terrified, I haven’t had any luck else where… Any suggestions to keep making money online???
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amanda36c 1:10 pm on August 14, 2017 Permalink |
You’re saying that the answer is to use Payoneer as payout method and this will solve the problem? According to you, you have been defrauded. This said and after all you went through, why on Earth would you continue to work for a company that you know defrauded you? Is there any doubt in your mind they defrauded you? You didn’t leave enough details.
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amanda36c 1:17 pm on August 14, 2017 Permalink |
Also, unless you have a boatload of money (or have any clue of how much money is behind them), any legal route you decide to go will only end in disappointment and/or bankruptcy. Try going to law enforcement but good luck with that. You first must prove you actually have a case. One meeting with your lawyer and theirs and suddenly, things will start to get weird between you and your lawyers. I know who has been harassing me all these years. I remember when it all first started and I know how to read writing styles. They don’t do it for fun. They do it to drive you the hell offline, to frustrate you right offline. Keep speaking out though but try not to waste all your time and effort going after them, unless you’re prepared to go all in against the deepest pockets you’ve ever seen.
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amanda36c 10:56 am on August 15, 2017 Permalink
Let’s keep our conversations on this one platform. If you would like something to remain private, just indicate so in the message itself and I won’t approve it.
I received your messages on Facebook but prefer not to chat there. Here, your ip is displayed (but only to me) so I know it is you. And don’t worry … my WordPress account was not ‘hacked’, as you suggested. Most of what people claim is ‘hacking’ is nothing more than them allowing access to websites to “sign in with (list of social media websites)”. Just change your passwords and never allow apps access to your accounts by “signing in with …”. On some sites, such as on Twitter, you can go into your account settings and remove any apps that you have given access to. This means you would have to sign in manually instead of using social media sites to do so but it’s much MUCH safer this way, especially from the porn pigs. Then, of course, change your password and never use the same password that you use on any other sites. As a final precaution, I’d also check to make sure I don’t have a keylogger in my computer. It’s highly doubtful this is a hacker. That’s just what the industry wants girls to believe. It’s a great way to take the heat off themselves. 😉
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