Cam Decoy; Where Have All The Camgirls Gone?
What Is Cam Decoy?
This Cam Decoy program has been quietly making the rounds of popular adult live cam websites for roughly four years. A program that creates the illusion that a performer is live can be quite the asset to websites wanting to maximize profits. Great concept. Leave it up to the adult industry to pull that rabbit out of their hat. Leave it up to them to trick paying customers into thinking a performer is right there communicating with them, responding to their requests, interacting, when in fact, they’re not. In their video, this company ever so slightly touches on the fact that audio can also be offered, as well. How it’s done must be a big secret because it’s hardly even mentioned.
Why Use Cam Decoy?
Why pay us performers for live content when you can pass replays off as live and not have to pay us anything at all? Fool the members. Fool the girls. Fool everyone! What a wonderful way to make money. As far as the content; these sites by now have enough of it that they can easily buy, sell or trade it and never have to pay another camgirl again. There is more than enough content to keep them going strong for the rest of their scumbag lives.
Is it surprising, my fellow camgirls, that our revenues and traffic are seeing declines like never before?
Can You Be Fooled?
Members of these sites – could you have fallen victim to a cam decoy while thinking you were getting off to a real live camgirl, doing exactly what you were asking her to do? Have you ever asked her to wave to you and then believed she was real just because you saw her do it? These buggers are getting sophisticated. They have even incorporated voice into the whole scheme, to further trick you into thinking the performers are live. In reality, they are as live as … Elvis is, in Las Vegas!
How To Spot A Cam Decoy Session
When a potential customer enters a performer’s room and wants to know if she is live or not, he will typically ask her to wave or give him the finger, thinking if she doesn’t do it, she’s a fake. Don’t be so easily fooled. These cats are sly and their programs catch every movement possible, to ensure it all looks legit and interactive in the final edit.
One way to know for sure is to ask her to call your name. Watch her lips and she speaks it, or ask her to look into the cam and call out a name that starts with the letter “L”, like Larry and see if her tongue touches the top of her mouth when she starts to say it. A name beginning with the letter “S”, like Steve, is great, too, and look for her lips stretch to slightly horizontally when she begins to say it. If she doesn’t offer audio, (and there really is no excuse for a camgirl not to offer audio in an industry as competitive as ours), try to think of something super creative to get her to do besides waving or giving the finger. Think ‘charades’ and let your imagination run wild!
Would They Really Do This?
This program was created in 2010, discussed in 2011 and for the most part, shrugged off, just like every other underhanded trick these sites use to sell our content and not have to pay us. Yet another way to maximize profits. Just business. Right? What surprises me the most in reading those discussions by industry girls, is that the point of this is completely missed. The girls are discussing whether or not it is a smart idea, rather than looking at it from a business perspective and seeing why the sites themselves would be doing this and how this affects us in the form of the live video model being replaced by replay videos of us, which we are not paid for. Why the sites would do this is obvious. Would they really do this though? We’re talking about sites that introduce studios and recruiters in their efforts to drive our commission down. We’re talking about sites that buy, sell and trade our content, collectively to other sites, each other. Anyone thinking this industry is above board and straight with us, would never lie, cheat or steal, really has a lot to learn. Our contracts speak volumes to this. For fun and kicks, have your lawyer translate what the contract does for the performer, in comparison to what it does for the site. His advice would be “don’t sign it”. Would the sites really do this? Anyone that even has to ask that question, seriously needs their head examined.
Here’s the Cam Decoy ad
Tucker 12:50 am on January 30, 2014 Permalink |
Don’t think Ihave run into this But it does make a person think about it
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amanda36c 2:11 pm on February 7, 2014 Permalink |
It sure does. A great conversation piece and little more, since people couldn’t care less about what goes on in our corrupt industry.
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NA 1:25 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink |
I understand that sites may sell content and not pay the models they steal it from; however, for the sake of this post, you’re making it seem like the company, CamDecoy, is doing it.
The model in the video is Tessa Taylor, a porn actress, who was paid directly to perform all the content for that product. In fact, I remember recognizing her on Streamate under the name MadisonQT. I knew it was Tessa Taylor (and a recording) right away.
When you find a recording of an actual cam girl being passed off as a live stream on a site somewhere, post about that. Now THAT would be something people would start talking about.
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amanda36c 1:01 pm on February 7, 2014 Permalink |
Dearest N/A,
As expected, someone anonymous comes crawling out of the woodwork to defend this.
One look at the video tells me this program was created with the purpose of fooling and defrauding people. Its entire premise is based on trickery. The customer, paying a per minute rate, thinks he is interacting with a live camgirl, when in fact, it is nothing more than a program created with snippets from a real girl’s online performance from a prior date.. There are substantial differences between live cam rates and those of replay (or non-live) sessions. That said, how is this not deceiving? How is this not a fraud?
I fail to see what the porn star they used even has to do with this, but in your own defense, you do seem to know quite a bit about her and her dealings with this company for some reason. How would you know she was paid directly for that? Very convenient for you to just happen to know this for a fact.
I just love your last comment: “When you find a recording of an actual cam girl being passed off as a live stream on a site somewhere, post about that. Now THAT would be something people would start talking about.”
You mean that would be something of interest to you because you need people like me to show you what, in all your arrogance and stupidity, you forgot to cover up or hide? I’d rather just keep that for my own personal records. I know who I’m dealing with, so thanks for your generous advice and for taking the time out of your busy day (I’m sure) to post to my little blog here. Much appreciated.
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Hanna 6:22 pm on March 17, 2014 Permalink
In response to N/A’s comment “When you find a recording of an actual cam girl being passed off as a live stream on a site somewhere, post about that. Now THAT would be something people would start talking about.”
What about the pop-up’s when you visit a site such as *advertisement removed* if you click categories a pop-up comes up on the bottom with SM models performing shows totally naked with the option to click to that model. Its flashing its LIVE!!! It’s actually a loop video or several loop videos used. One of the models is a friend of mine she had no idea they were using her in these advertisements…I took a video of it to show her. When I went to her profile she has not been online in months. So THERE is something to talk about!!!
I cannot believe they are using Christy Mack as a cam decoy model…even my mom knows who Christy Mack is..
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ElliotNess29 2:00 am on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
Amanda,
You are more right than you think! These recorded “live” shows being passed off as real camgirls on adult webcam sites are popping up all over the place. I am also sure that the webcam websites are earning 100% profit on them. Great for the real camgirls struggling to see any paying traffic to their chatrooms and traffic in general falling on almost all adult camming websites. The games that these scumbags will play with the talent is never ending. It’s all about greed and their wallets getting fatter while the performers struggle to make ends meet.
Your fellow performers might want get their heads out of the sand! Ask themselves these simple questions: If the traffic is falling and the performers aren’t making much money and the big webcam sites are also really losing money too, then how come they don’t purchase more traffic or do more promotional campaigns to entice the customers to spend? Is it because they really aren’t losing money? If not, where exactly are they making their money from? It makes no sense when you see all these new webcam websites under hidden ownerships. How come so many guests and nontalking customers in your chatrooms? What happened to all the talkative members that used to frequent all the webcam websites? You yourself Amanda, used to complain about how members chatted and now they don’t. Is it possible the real customers have figured out the games, scams and BS played by the adult webcam industry to take their hard earned monies?
@NA Maybe Amanda should just start posting the names of the actual real performers instead of the fake recordings. Opposite to what you said. Now that would be a great story! You seemed to know a lot about the websites stealing the performers’ content. Who are you spin doctoring this for then? You just have to love the old shell game of hide the fraud from the talent. Oops, they weren’t supposed to catch on. Oh well, I guess you can just harass them offline or cut their traffic to shut them up. It worked real well for the Nazis, didn’t it?
We have a couple of saying in Italy: “Chi ruba poco, ruba assai” means if you will steal an egg, you will steal an ox.
And: “Chi affoga s’attaccherrebbe alle funi del cielo” means a drowning man will pluck at a straw.
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Dave 12:51 am on September 6, 2014 Permalink |
Not sure if this was mentioned but I think MadisonQT on Sm is created by Sm as she’s been on there forever and while one free chat I had with her seemed real, I went into one chat with HannaBubbles which was the same girl and looked like a recording (I got permanently banned when I asked her to flip me off or wave), then I found MadisonQT was live too in a different room and outfit, I asked her to wave and whether she was a recording and I got permanently banned by her too, but because MadisonQT has been on that site forever and is the model for the “video loop” software advertisement that has since been removed from the creator’s site, I think Sm is intentionally looping this girl’s videos (or she’s being paid by them to make new ones) and I even said that to their chat support.
I honestly can’t see it any other way. This is flabberghasting. After reading a bunch of sw posts from the last few years, apparently Sm loops other girl’s free chats and private chats when they’re away, and I’ve even seen full nude and masturbation sessions in free chats sometimes, and I thought they were just glitches!
I fully believe Sm is ripping off not only the cam girls but their users this way. Unbelievable. After reading how much the site takes in percentage from the girls, they just seem like con artists and I’ve lost a lot of respect for them. I’ll only do privates with ladies that respond because at least they’re making something off me.
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HonestThoughts 2:19 am on February 4, 2019 Permalink |
There are a TON on stremate now. Really pathetic and fraudulant. The better half of them have 500+ fake positive comments. I’m almost certain these belong to SM directly. They lie and tell cam girls that time online is part of placement, well, you can’t out stream a bot that broadcasts 20 to 24 hours a day. Sm is done for. I’d be shocked if they were around 5 years from now. Been a sinking ship for years but the increase of bots I think are a telltale sign that something is off in a big way. Have you seen the camming sucks thread on SW? Or the vent thread? Mods over there during recent months have been extremely strict , and I wonder why? Trying to save face while sm sinks beyond the point of saving?
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