Camgirl Recruiters – Just Say NO
It’d be nothing short of a myth to say there was ever a need or demand for camgirl recruiters. Their presence in our industry came out of a desperate move by a website to create the middleman in an attempt to bring down performers’ commissions across the board. Anyone seeing a major decline in traffic (and of course, we all did), were approached by recruiters on outside platforms, such as Twitter, privately and quietly.
The recruiter’s job is to have performers sign up under them, accepting less commission than they currently are earning, or if they’re new to the site, accepting less than anyone signed up at 35% directly with the site. The quiet deal is the performers are promised higher volumes of traffic and better placement in exchange for their acceptance of a smaller chunk of commission. No recruiter has this much pull with the sites to get them to agree to pay the performer a full 35% commission, while also pushing them up with better placement and traffic. While the recruiter gets their cut, the site is also getting theirs. This is no conspiracy theory; it’s just plain business, and common sense to anyone asking “what’s in it for the sites?”. Well, think about it.
We’ve survived just fine, all these years before the sites decided to bring in recruiters. Their sole purpose is to force us to accept things that the sites themselves would have a hard time getting us to agree to. After all, we’ve had a set commission all along. What could the site possibly say to justify themselves in cutting that commission now?
Without the promises of higher volumes of traffic, no one would agree to a lower commission. They would just leave. Many already have because of the decline in traffic and games being played by recruiters, studios and of course, the site themselves. I’m only stating the obvious. If some performers were not aware of this, then perhaps they should be. The only thing the recruiter can possibly back up as far as a claim would be to say that they offer better support than the sites, which in all honesty, isn’t that hard to do. Still, the sites have all the decision-making power, not the recruiters, so the support they offer amounts to little more than a shoulder to cry on.
What we performers need to do, as a group, is refuse to join any site that doesn’t allow a direct sign-up on their platform. Their site and company name should be in the agreement and all other (so-called) legal documents they want us to sign. This business of needing to be under a recruiter is a complete embarrassment for any performer with a shred of self-respect or dignity. We need to stand up for ourselves, for a change. It’s time.
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ElliotNess29 7:24 pm on November 25, 2013 Permalink |
JB asked me for my help investigating FCI Inc, ICF Technology Inc, Accretive Technologies Group and other Shawn Boday companies. He’s angry about their treatment of you, the harassment and bouncing your traffic out of your chatroom nightly. Especially after Boday asked you if you could bring other hosts to Streamate and then allowing you to be harassed without anything being done about it. The Peyras thing is a real conflict and could be an anti-trust issue for the independent performers and an employment lawyer should be consulted immediately.
It appears Amanda that you are more right than you think about Streamate’s treatment of you and the other independents who are making 35%. It appears their traffic is declining for other reasons despite their twitter person’s denial. It appears that on November 1st, 2013 ICF Technology Inc., Seattle Washington filed a lawsuit against Google Inc about a “manual spam action” placed on over 1500 ICF Technology Inc. “white label” website clients. ICF is claiming loss of traffic, revenue and clients of paid subscription websites. Read ICF Technologies Inc. lawsuit’s claims: http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1556&context=historical
Google responded quickly with a Notice of Removal on November 15th, 2013. Here’s their response to the ICF Technology Inc.’s court filing: http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1570&context=historical
It only makes sense that their bottom line is dropping and therefore Boday or upper management would want to make the most profit out a declining traffic base by simply pushing traffic to the lower payout commission rates on their websites. They absolutely have the administrative capabilities in their chat interface software program to be invisible or create accounts to use secretly in their system. They also may kick, block or ban anybody on their websites within the admin functions without the knowledge of the peformers. Every existing chat interface software sold has it built right in as well as the recording of all chat sessions and performances.
I have sent by email to JB the details on all of Boday’s businesses and links to complaints about Streamate’s questionable practises as well as all partnership announcements by FCI Inc. I hope this information helps you get the games being played against you stopped. It’s people like you who speak out about the injustices against performers and call out the scumbags of the Adult industry that will make things change. People staying silent about it will never stop the games and bullying tactics employed by the Website owners. Keep on being you.
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amanda36c 3:42 pm on November 26, 2013 Permalink |
Thanks for the information, E. What I find most interesting are the things Streamate seems to be accusing Google of. Rather hypocritical, since those are the very same things they do to their own contractors. With in-house studios and recruiters (deemed “just whitelabels”) and the preferential placement that comes along with the lower commission, traffic is being bounced and redirected out of my room (and I’m pretty sure, other 35%ers, as well) and ever so gently tossed back to the main page, for the member to choose from their in-house studios and recruited girls, all filling the spots there. It’s no surprise, especially now, that the members are pushed in the most ‘profitable’ direction.
This is interesting, as well. They wrote:
“Google’s continuing tortious conduct, as alleged above, has interfered
with ICF’s Clients’ ability to have their websites reached directly through the Google search
engine, injures ICF’s Clients and, therefore, ICF, who is in a contractual relationship with
those Clients to host their websites.”
Allowing members to write tags that remain in the Google search engines is also harmful to us as individual contractors. When they are free to use words of their own choosing, such as “cunt”, “whore” “bitch” “ugly”, etc., this becomes slander, though possibly borderline legal because you’d have to type in the exact term, along with the person’s handle. The results will likely return some Streamate-owned whitelabels with those tags, and they never disappear from Google.
I try to understand why they would allow this, but then again, they also allow members to change their handle any time they want. Encourages this type of behavior, looking at it logically.
Teapot calling the kettle black? Absolutely.
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Webmaster 2:07 am on August 20, 2016 Permalink |
They only care about a few hosts, is just the way it is. But zillions of dollars are being stolen and why there is not a major lawsuit by Affiliates about their white label, is beyond me. They changed the format of their site? Why? To again steal !! First they appeared as if they were hijacking the codes and shaving, now they just steal it all. With this new site format EVERY existing customer had to re-sign therefore ALL THE webmasters are completely ripped off 100%. All our work for NOTHING!!! Please let there be a lawsuit on this alone. I will be joining !!!
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